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And suddenly the sentiment here would be that Biden is the greatest President in the history of the world if he did that. lol.
Trump has zero say if Biden did an administrative release…
Lame duck period after election is perfect opportunity for Biden admin to do something without political consequences. What depends on who wins. If it’s Trump they might want to pre empt whatever he has planned.
Don't you all just love it! Trump allies making plans to privatize Fannie and Freddie. Making plans? We don't need no stinkin' plans! Just come to work one morning and say they are released from those damn conservatorships! That's all it took for Hanky Panky back in 2008; that's all it would take now. This "planning" BS is just that, bull shit.
Tomato / Potato
This should prompt the potential Harris admin to do something similar , or else Harris will become Hillary Clinton number two in 2016 election.
In 2016 election, Hillary Clinton emails were the strategy which allowed trump to win 2016 election.
Now trump is using Fannie and Freddie as his strategy to win the 2024 election.
Good - Bad - Meaningless --- FOR the FREEDOM of F and F
I predict today - with IMO 100% confidence - DJT will debate Harris again before the election
The more it looks like DJT will win - the more likely a pre vote day run up - say 20%
Then - would DJT behave differently this time - ? no one knows
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saving housing ?
note - F and F were TAKEN from us - equity holders - FACT
note - GOV owes us Billions and Tens of Billions of dollars
note - F and F are operating just fine under FHFA . Their being private - owned by us - is the right thing to happen but IMO does not "save housing"
that is part of the problem --- F and F are doing just fine for the "liquidity creation" charge they have right now --- leaving litle motivation to change things . To remind - I believe 100% the GOV TOOK our property and either should give it back or pay us. But F and F are providing liquidity to mortgage market as charged
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so she is a capitalist ?
?
I do not agree with but understand GOLDEN GOOSE arguments in the PAST
but now
no money - no cash - goes to Treasury
all cash stays with F and F
Golden Goose?
Fannie & Freddie privatization story by Trump Allies on CNBC confirmed ...
Boom ! Must listen & Share ! Future of Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac comes into question on CNBC https://t.co/p0AIPouxJh
— Cmdr Ron Luhmann (@usnavycmdr) September 14, 2024
Bullish
Yaz Sir - And sing "ole Man River"
for da whole trip:
Ol' man river,
Dat ol' man river
He mus'know sumpin'
But don't say nuthin',
He jes'keeps rollin'
He keeps on rollin' along.
He don' plant taters,
He don't plant cotton,
An' dem dat plants'em
is soon forgotten,
But ol'man river,
He jes keeps rollin'along.
You an'me, we sweat an' strain,
Body all achin' an' rack'd wid pain,
Tote dat barge!
Lif' dat bale!
Git a little drunk
An' you land in jail.
Oh wow. Down the Mississippi here we go. $10 on deck. Bring it all in. Oh wow. Here we go.
Fannie Mae - All the Way
I'm gonna go ahead and order me
a House Barge and motor up and
down The Mississippi
yep it’s real this time
Congratulations we hav been officially hit the four year mark for warrants to expire. Meaning this administrative can make a move or wait for the opposition to take the credit for saving housing.
Those warrants expire on September 7, 2028. Together, the authority granted in HERA, the common-stock warrants, and the purchase agreements for senior preferred stock ensure that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac maintain a positive net worth and that the government retains control and effective ownership of them.
Ya welcome your all welcome 🤗
Yup that would be me.
FNMA/FMCC
Moanin' and Groanin'
Cryiin' and Whinin'
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Bullish
FNMA/FMCC
Moanin' and Groanin'
Cryiin' and Whinin'
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Cryiin' and Whinin'
Absolutely correct. Rich people didn't get rich by doing the right thing for people like us.
Scaramucci predicts Trump will do another debate ‘100 percent’
by Lauren Irwin - 09/13/24 7:48 AM ET
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4878073-anthony-scaramucci-donald-trump-debate-kamala-harris/
Bullish
ok
as ususal posted too much
again - I warn --- there are many many many avenues to PRIVATE that leave us penniless
link
and what was the interest rate back THEN ---- the FED induced 2.5% --- and maybe now the FED induced 6.0%
this is not DJT or BO - this is 9T and then 8T thrown at economy due to covid to prevent a depression
I do not fault that !!
That created a snapback inflation that came and went high fast
FED raised rates to beat up jobs and GDP and the economy ---- otherwise nicely called COOL IT DOWN
It appears to have worked
Soon mortgage rates will be 4% -- and they should have been say 3.5% pre Covid - then do the math
AGAIN - I do not find any reason to fault DJT or BIDEN given the immensity of COVID and its impact on jobs - the economy - and then inflation as people rushed to buy goods again
look at the official GOV books as others have linked
that 25B a year is killed by a starting place of minus 200B
To repeat time 100
I (and argue it should be WE) want the GOV (and I suggest Treasury can do this Monday !!) to say the LP/SP is paid off
That is a massive drain on any potential to get capital reserve positive - even a dollar - while its out there
With it gone we likely are 60% (someone with #s ?) to even the high Calabria numbers !!
per good math by many on this board if we are the only owners - with our shares --- we might have a $80 stock
if GOV uses its warrants --- which can be the TRADE (quid pro quo) to kill the 200B obligation on LP/SP - then that 80 becomes 20
I will take 20 on the common !!! this way - shared with Warrants - if that is what is needed for GOV to stop saying we still owe 200B and can never get to a safe capital ratio . We need value ---- even if at 5B shares v 1B . 1B shares with 200B of negative surplus is junk
I am not a liberal socialist
I am a liberal capitalist
in that vain - what was stolen from us should be returned period
Far right R would just make the steal official
Far right D would just nationalize and make the steal official
in the middle - some R and some D could find an answer that rewards the country and us --- (I do not know the Congressional power brokers who would lead this - but hope to learn more) . I can see this happening under either R or D (e.g. Trump might do nothing but appoint the right Treasury Secretary - or Kamal might do nothing but appoint the right Treasury Secretary)
SHIZAM
bluntly - this is the first real article that in all its 1000000000 words - talks to current holders coming out well
i hope it is right
PLLLLEASE post the full post - article
much appreciated
reduce
that is the trend now with BIG 8 BANKS getting a GREAT change in their favor - of the type we want - lower capital needed
agree or disagree with all none or lots of smart logic
I do not see where that had much to say if unconstitutional
Courts will look at it and with this SCOTUS who knows what they will or will not say AND WHY
link please
"released" is a specific word too
beware privatized - as that can happen without a penny for us
freed is also a tricky word
link to BO himself in a speech - policy paper - email said what you say he did ---- I hate his NWS - it is illegal - but I never read anything close to what you say
This. That entire article is meaningless depending on results in November.
I hope Larry Kudlow gets into this some more and finds out what really happened.
JPM and Morgan Stanley were advisers to FHFA for an IPO. Nothing happened.
In my opinion they do not want to do an IPO until the lawsuits are resolved.
Who wants to put 100 billion in two companies, who have 30+ lawsuits going on.
The warrants are not even legal.
Bullish
Kudlow is all talk, was on this crusade for about a cup of coffee then never mentioned it again. Also, don't understand what this means:
"Under Trump, previous efforts were made to privatize Fannie and Freddie, but they proved unsuccessful."
Harris will never release them knowing the access to their retained earnings and profits remains in perpetuity.
I literarily don’t care what trump thinks he has to get the job first!
I don't think so they're not going to release the Golden goose especially if they take the lead in the polls, and their opponent is talking about people eating dogs and cats.... Should have been a 50 cent pop today, if it wasn't for the debate.
It's just that simple.
This should prompt the potential Harris admin to do something similar
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-allies-working-plans-privatize-152503014.html
Bullish
I work in real estate. All of your examples are canned and the same cue cards used by everyone like you. Bought my first home 33 years ago, have owned many since. Your references are typical.
I have no idea what you're talking about here. But I can tell you hosing unaffordability has only gotten this dire in the past 3.5 years. In 2020 the avergae income needed to buy a home was $59K, now it's app'x $110K.
The companies keep building their capital base at ~$25bn a year. The more they retain, the less dilution is needed to get them out of conservatorship. The next 12 months is an optimal window for an IPO. https://t.co/wpgbo5FW2r
— Alec Mazo (@Alec_Mazo) September 13, 2024
Yea, at least 20 cents pop if the story is Apple!
we have become bit smarter to not expect green lolipops.
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